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Paid for independent testing and results did not match vendor COA — looking for input

PurityPaulOR Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:26 AM 19 replies 2,175 viewsPage 3 of 4
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Jan 30, 2024 at 11:58 AM#11
sean_dublin said:
Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself…

sean_dublin has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable. "99% pure" without the technique, the standard and the conditions is a claim, not a measurement.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Jan 31, 2024 at 11:21 AM#12
steph_laguna said:
Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask. Taking it to my next appointment.

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sean_dublin said:
Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself…

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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Feb 2, 2024 at 10:06 AM#14
PurityPaulOR said:
Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

Shipping damage protocol for vendor vetting orders: if your package arrives with visible damage, temperature excursion, or broken vials:

  • Photograph EVERYTHING before discarding packaging
  • Note the temperature of the cold pack (liquid = possibly too warm)
  • Contact the vendor within 24 hours with photos
  • Request a replacement shipment or refund
  • Do NOT use potentially compromised medication

Reputable vendors will replace damaged shipments without argument. If they push back, that's a red flag about the vendor.

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Feb 3, 2024 at 9:28 AM#15

Moderator note: a couple of off-topic posts removed. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.

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