Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.
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Aug 18, 2025 at 11:25 AM#17
SarahChen_PharmD said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
I read this differently from SarahChen_PharmD, on substance rather than tone. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.
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Aug 18, 2025 at 2:24 PM#18
SarahChen_PharmD said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
True, with the qualification that this is a self-selected group. The people for whom it did not work post less, and that shapes everything we think we know.
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SarahChen_PharmD said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework.
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