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How to commission independent testing — need advice

wendy_avl Thu, May 2, 2024 at 11:19 PM 18 replies 2,066 viewsPage 2 of 4
labquiet_amy
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May 3, 2024 at 1:03 AM#6
Dr.GastroMayo said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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May 3, 2024 at 1:43 AM#7
wendy_avl said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

My HPLC chromatogram analysis for certificates of analysis — I sent my batch to Janoshik and here's what the results showed:

Main peak retention time: 16.8 minutes (consistent with semaglutide reference standard)
Peak purity: 99.2%
Related substances: 0.7% (single impurity at 10.5 minutes — likely a synthesis intermediate)
Mass spec: m/z 4113.5 (matches expected molecular weight)

This is a clean result. The mass spec confirmation is particularly important — it proves the molecule is actually semaglutide and not a substitution.

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May 3, 2024 at 2:23 AM#8
labquiet_amy said:
I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is.

Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik:

  • Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$156, 10-14 day turnaround
  • Valitech: US-based, ISO 17025 accredited, ~$246
  • Eurofins: Full pharmaceutical testing suite, more expensive but comprehensive
  • ChemTox: Basic identity and purity testing, ~$116

Janoshik is the community standard but any ISO-accredited analytical lab can verify peptide identity and purity. The key is independence — don't rely solely on the vendor's own testing.

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May 3, 2024 at 3:03 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Why two laboratories report different purity for the same batch, and which number to believe?

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May 3, 2024 at 6:13 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Purity and content being different measurements was the piece I was missing. The vial was overfilled and pure, which is a very different problem from the one I thought I had.

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