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Particulate matter testing — 6 month update

Dr.RenalNash Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:01 PM 12 replies 1,718 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Dr.RenalNash
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Feb 11, 2025 at 10:01 PM#1

Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: why two laboratories report different purity for the same batch, and which number to believe.

Tell me what I have not thought of.

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LibrarianMeg
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Feb 11, 2025 at 10:41 PM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers. Does the report name the batch on your vial. Is the date consistent with when that batch existed. Is it addressed to the vendor or to the person who paid for the test. Was the sample taken from general stock or supplied by the vendor. A perfect certificate for a different batch is worth nothing, and vendor-supplied samples are the most common way a genuine report ends up misleading.

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Feb 11, 2025 at 11:21 PM#3
LibrarianMeg said:
The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers.

LibrarianMeg has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable. "99% pure" without the technique, the standard and the conditions is a claim, not a measurement.

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Feb 12, 2025 at 12:01 AM#4
Dr.RenalNash said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

Can confirm the pattern Dr.RenalNash describes. Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself calibrated, the gradient and column, the detection wavelength, and where the integration baseline was drawn. A percentage point or two between competent labs is expected. What is not expected is a large gap, and the usual explanation there is that one report is not of the batch in your hand.

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Feb 12, 2025 at 3:46 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik:

  • Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$158, 10-14 day turnaround
  • Valitech: US-based, ISO 17025 accredited, ~$218
  • Eurofins: Full pharmaceutical testing suite, more expensive but comprehensive
  • ChemTox: Basic identity and purity testing, ~$118

Janoshik is the community standard but any ISO-accredited analytical lab can verify peptide identity and purity. The key is independence — don't rely solely on the vendor's own testing.

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