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Amino acid analysis for peptide identity — beyond mass spec

PeptideSynthNJ Wed, May 27, 2026 at 3:38 AM 21 replies 716 viewsPage 1 of 5
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May 27, 2026 at 3:38 AM#1

This gets cited here weekly, usually second-hand, so it is worth setting out what it does and does not establish.

The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

Where I think it is weakest: the completion rate deserves as much attention as the headline, because a large effect among those who finished is a different claim from a large effect among those enrolled.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: whether the RDA is the wrong reference entirely during rapid weight loss, and what the actual target should be. I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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May 27, 2026 at 3:39 AM#2
PeptideSynthNJ said:
The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why.

PeptideSynthNJ has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing. Roughly 25 to 40g per sitting with enough leucine to trigger synthesis, three or four times a day, is more effective than the same total in one enormous evening meal — and on a suppressed appetite the enormous evening meal is the one you will not finish anyway.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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May 27, 2026 at 3:41 AM#3
PeptideSynthNJ said:
The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why.

I will push back on the powder-first advice. It works and it also trains people out of eating food, and when the drug stops the habits are what remain. Getting protein from meals is slower and holds up better afterwards.

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May 27, 2026 at 3:42 AM#4

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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May 27, 2026 at 3:49 AM#5
LabKate said:
Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing.

Agreed, and for anyone with an eating-disorder history this needs a clinician in the loop rather than a forum. The same drug can be therapeutic in binge-eating disorder and actively harmful in a restrictive disorder.

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