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My blood pressure normalization journey — July 2024

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pat_auckland
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Sep 2, 2025 at 7:17 PM#16

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Lp(a) and cardiovascular risk: a nuance that matters. Unlike most lipid markers, Lp(a) is 90%+ genetically determined and doesn't really change with weight loss or GLP-1 therapy.

My Lp(a) has remained at 40 nmol/L across all time points. If yours is elevated (>50 nmol/L), you need additional risk mitigation strategies regardless of your GLP-1 response. Don't assume your medication is covering all cardiovascular risk factors.

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Dr.BariatricHTX
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Sep 5, 2025 at 7:50 AM#17

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

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[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Sep 7, 2025 at 8:25 PM#18
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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Sep 10, 2025 at 9:01 AM#19
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Sep 12, 2025 at 9:38 PM#20

Moderator note: reminder that nothing in this thread is medical advice, and that clinical claims need a source. Report rather than reply if it drifts again.

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