PharmacoVig_BOS said:Training does two things here and only one of them is on the scale.
Agreed, with the caveat that "exercise" for someone with mobility limitations is a different set of options, and the standard advice is written as though everyone can walk for an hour.
MarkLI_maint said:True, though the ladder is longer and that is not a neutral detail — six dose steps means six opportunities to stall on the way up, and plenty of…
That reframing is the part I needed. Adding it to my notes with a link back to this thread.
PharmacoVig_BOS said:Training does two things here and only one of them is on the scale.
Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.
Worth separating that from training through weight loss, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.
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