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Step count challenge — anyone have experience?

kevin_tulsa Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 4:02 PM 15 replies 1,475 viewsPage 1 of 3
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kevin_tulsa
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Jun 23, 2025 at 4:02 PM#1

This is the version of the explanation I wish somebody had given me, written down before I forget what confused me. It is about lean-mass preservation, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, and not making the deficit larger than the training can support. Cardio does not protect lean mass and in a deep deficit competes with recovery.

The condition it depends on

The condition that a single DEXA is not a measurement, it is one draw from a distribution. Hydration status moves the lean compartment by a kilogram or more between scans, so any comparison of scans done at different times of day or different hydration states is noise.

The practical version

If you are tracking this properly: same scanner, same time of day, same hydration, at least six months apart, and read grip strength or a lift number alongside it. Function is the outcome; the scan is the proxy.

What I am not sure about

What would genuinely help is knowing what fraction of loss being lean mass is actually normal, because the numbers quoted here range from 10% to 40% and cannot all be right. Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

— kevin_tulsa · corrections welcome and will be edited into this post with credit
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Jun 23, 2025 at 4:48 PM#2
kevin_tulsa said:
The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate protein. Both numbers need a caveat that matters: "lean mass" on a DEXA is not muscle. It includes water, glycogen and the lean fraction of organs, and glycogen alone carries about three grams of water per gram. A large early lean drop is mostly the glycogen and water going, which is why the first scan flatters and the second is the honest one.

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Jun 23, 2025 at 5:34 PM#3
kevin_tulsa said:
The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…

Pushing back on kevin_tulsa here. I think this board over-worries about lean mass. Some lean loss is obligatory — you need less muscle to move a smaller body, and preserving mass you no longer need is not a health outcome. The question is whether strength and function held, and mine did.

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Jun 23, 2025 at 6:20 PM#4

Short answer first, then the reasoning. There is also a quality change that the scan cannot see. Weight loss shifts fiber-type distribution toward Type I and improves mitochondrial density and insulin-stimulated glucose uptake per fiber — so the muscle you keep is metabolically better even though there is less of it. That does not make the loss irrelevant, but it explains why function often holds up better than the number suggests.

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Jun 23, 2025 at 10:40 PM#5
Dr.NateNeph said:
The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate…

Second this.

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