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Arterial stiffness reduction on GLP-1 — July 2024

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Feb 10, 2024 at 10:32 PM#11
Dr.KarenChen said:
Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off lisinopril entirely!

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Feb 13, 2024 at 9:19 AM#12
PedsEndoPhilly said:
InsuranceTom said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

Thank you for spelling out the reasoning rather than just the conclusion. I will report back once I have actually tried it.

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Feb 15, 2024 at 8:05 PM#13
Dr.KarenChen said:
Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off lisinopril entirely!

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

References:
[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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Feb 18, 2024 at 6:49 AM#14
pat_auckland said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Feb 20, 2024 at 5:32 PM#15

Moderator note: a couple of off-topic posts removed. Carry on.

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