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ForumsCardiovascular OutcomesHas anyone dealt with blood pressure reduction mechanisms on glp-1? Page 7

Has anyone dealt with blood pressure reduction mechanisms on glp-1?

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mark_tokyo
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Aug 10, 2024 at 9:43 PM#31
kate.chem said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else. Adding it to my notes with a link back to this thread.

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Aug 12, 2024 at 5:29 AM#32

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

kate.chem said:
...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?

Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.

If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.

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Aug 13, 2024 at 1:15 PM#33
sophie_paris said:
kate.chem said: ...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

Second this. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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Aug 14, 2024 at 9:00 PM#34
sophie_paris said:
kate.chem said: ...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 → elevated homocysteine → increased cardiovascular risk marker.

The connection: B12 is a cofactor for homocysteine metabolism. Without adequate B12, homocysteine accumulates. This is ironic — taking a CV-protective medication while developing a CV risk factor from reduced nutrition.

Solution: comprehensive vitamin supplementation and regular lab monitoring. Don't let the medication's benefits be undermined by nutritional deficiencies.

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Aug 16, 2024 at 4:44 AM#35
sophie_paris said:
kate.chem said: ...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

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[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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