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Should I be worried about my heart rate going up? — anyone have experience?

fiona_VT Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 3:46 AM 12 replies 1,852 viewsPage 1 of 3
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fiona_VT
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Nov 12, 2024 at 3:46 AM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

What I actually want to know is how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 4:01 AM#2
fiona_VT said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most:

Baseline hsCRP: 5.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk)
Month 6 hsCRP: 1.5 mg/L (moderate risk)
Month 12 hsCRP: 0.8 mg/L (low risk)

This level of inflammatory marker reduction is comparable to what you'd see with statin therapy. Combined with the weight loss, my 10-year ASCVD risk score dropped from 12% to 4%. My cardiologist is genuinely impressed.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 4:16 AM#3
Dr.PainCLE said:
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most: Baseline hsCRP: 5.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk) Month 6 hsCRP:…
Dr.PainCLE said:
...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?

Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.

If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 4:31 AM#4
fiona_VT said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 5:50 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Cardiac biomarkers and cardiovascular risk: my cardiologist ordered advanced cardiac labs given my family history. Results were encouraging:

  • NT-proBNP: 57 pg/mL (normal, cardiac function preserved)
  • Lp(a): 47 nmol/L (genetic, unchanged — expected)
  • ApoB: dropped from 157 to 97 mg/dL (excellent response)
  • Coronary calcium score: 0 (unchanged from baseline — reassuring)

The ApoB reduction is particularly meaningful — it's considered the best single predictor of cardiovascular risk. GLP-1 therapy seems to improve this consistently.

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