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Semaglutide cardiovascular benefit independent of weight loss — 6 month update

SurmountFan_IN Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 8:13 AM 15 replies 1,581 viewsPage 3 of 3
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Jun 15, 2025 at 7:34 AM#11
PeptideChemSF said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

That holds for the injectable. The oral formulation has different absorption behaviour and the dose numbers are not interchangeable, which is worth saying out loud because people quote them as if they were.

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Jun 15, 2025 at 1:08 PM#12
dan_philly said:
All true, with one condition: that curve is for people who reached the dose on schedule.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask. Sending this to two other people who asked me the same thing last week.

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Jun 15, 2025 at 6:43 PM#13
PeptideChemSF said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

I will push back on the "any working dose is fine" framing. The maintenance evidence sits overwhelmingly at the top studied dose, and the extension data shows regain tracking dose reduction rather than tracking stopping. Holding low is reasonable; pretending it is evidentially equivalent is not.

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SurmountFan_IN said:
My reason for being on this is cardiovascular rather than cosmetic, which puts me in a small minority in most of these threads.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Moderator note: two posts asking for a source have been merged into one. Please search the thread before asking again. Carry on.

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