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Heart failure hospitalization reduction on semaglutide — looking for input

marcus_mpls Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 6:31 PM 28 replies 1,408 viewsPage 3 of 6
ricardo_MIA
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Sep 12, 2025 at 8:24 AM#11
paige_pharma said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

That reframing is the part I needed.

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Sep 13, 2025 at 2:47 AM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

marcus_mpls said:
...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

I understand the skepticism — we've all seen "miracle" weight loss solutions come and go. But consider what makes GLP-1 agonists different:

  • Phase 3 RCTs with thousands of participants (not 20-person pilot studies)
  • Published in NEJM, JAMA, Lancet (not press releases)
  • Replicated across multiple independent research groups
  • Proven cardiovascular and renal benefits beyond weight loss
  • Biological mechanism fully characterized at the receptor level

This isn't a fad — it's a new drug class supported by the highest level of clinical evidence. The comparison to past fads is understandable but inappropriate.

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Dr.BariatricHTX said:
The dose-response is real but shallow at the top.

I will push back on the "any working dose is fine" framing. The maintenance evidence sits overwhelmingly at the top studied dose, and the extension data shows regain tracking dose reduction rather than tracking stopping. Holding low is reasonable; pretending it is evidentially equivalent is not.

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Sep 14, 2025 at 3:34 PM#14
marcus_mpls said:
SELECT is the trial that changed the framing of this class, because it was an outcome trial rather than a weight trial: about a 20% relative reduction…

Continuous metabolic monitoring dashboard for cardiovascular risk — I track everything in a spreadsheet and here's the month-over-month trend for my key markers:

Weight: consistent downtrend, -2.4 lbs/week average
Fasting glucose (finger stick): stable at 87 mg/dL
Blood pressure (home): 119/73 average
Resting heart rate: 67 bpm (down from 83)
Waist circumference: down 17 inches total

The resting heart rate improvement correlates with cardiovascular fitness gains. Everything is moving in the right direction.

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Sep 15, 2025 at 9:58 AM#15

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.

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