Dr.SurgeonPGH said:The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class.
Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly. The version of this that has an answer is narrower than the version being asked. Narrow it and it becomes tractable; leave it broad and the thread will produce nine confident and incompatible replies.
Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.
BariatricNurseD said:It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.
Pushing back on BariatricNurseD here. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.
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Shop Reference StandardsAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. If you are going to change something, change one thing and give it long enough to express itself. Four weeks is the usual minimum for anything pharmacological on this board, and two weeks of data has told you almost nothing.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.