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Danuglipron dose optimization — looking for input

bbq_ray_KC Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:03 AM 12 replies 1,816 viewsPage 1 of 3
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bbq_ray_KC
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Jan 9, 2025 at 9:03 AM#1

Writing this once so I can stop repeating it across threads. It is about oral semaglutide, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all. Being a small molecule it does not need SNAC, does not need the fasting window, and has oral bioavailability in the tens of percent rather than about one.

The condition it depends on

The absorption variability is real, but it partly averages out over weeks — the steady-state trough is less erratic than any single day would suggest. Where it bites is in the first fortnight, when people conclude the tablet does nothing.

The practical version

The practical numbers: about 1% oral bioavailability, 30 minutes fasted before food, no more than 120ml of plain water, and coffee counts as food for this purpose.

What I am not sure about

What I am trying to establish is whether the fasting requirement is as strict in practice as the label implies, and what people actually see when they get it wrong. Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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Jan 9, 2025 at 9:53 AM#2
bbq_ray_KC said:
Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.

bbq_ray_KC has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to get there because almost none of the tablet is absorbed. The dose numbers are not comparable across routes and quoting them side by side confuses people.

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Jan 9, 2025 at 10:43 AM#3
bbq_ray_KC said:
Orforglipron is the more interesting oral story because it is not a peptide at all.

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.

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Jan 9, 2025 at 11:33 AM#4

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. Oral semaglutide is absorbed in the stomach with the help of SNAC, which locally raises pH and protects the peptide long enough to cross. That mechanism is fragile: bioavailability is roughly 1% and highly sensitive to gastric contents, so a mouthful of coffee genuinely changes the exposure. This is why the label wants 30 minutes and no more than half a glass of plain water.

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Jan 9, 2025 at 4:17 PM#5
Dr.PainCLE said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

Mine went the same way, slower. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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