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GLP-1/GIP receptor co-agonism — September 2026

AussieAnna Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 11:51 PM 11 replies 1,876 viewsPage 1 of 3
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AussieAnna
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Aug 29, 2024 at 11:51 PM#1

Fourteen months on tirzepatide, currently 10mg, and I stopped escalating because 10mg is doing the job and 15mg made me feel flat rather than full.

What would genuinely help is knowing whether anyone has held 10mg long term rather than climbing, and what happened over the following year.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Dr.ReproEndo
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Aug 30, 2024 at 12:34 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The GIP arm is doing real work rather than padding the label. GIP receptor agonism appears to improve adipose insulin sensitivity and lipid handling, and — counter-intuitively — GIP signalling in the CNS reduces nausea rather than adding to it, which is why tolerability at high total agonism is better than the GLP-1-only comparison would predict. SURPASS-2 is the cleanest head-to-head: tirzepatide beat semaglutide 1mg at every dose tier.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 1:17 AM#3
Dr.ReproEndo said:
The GIP arm is doing real work rather than padding the label.

Agreed on the mechanism, with the caveat that the head-to-head used semaglutide 1mg, not 2.4mg. It is still the best direct evidence available, but it is not the comparison most people think they are citing.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 2:00 AM#4
AussieAnna said:
Fourteen months on tirzepatide, currently 10mg, and I stopped escalating because 10mg is doing the job and 15mg made me feel flat rather than full.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five. That matters when you are deciding whether a dose step has finished expressing itself.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 6:00 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Dose-response modeling for tirzepatide: Emax model fitting to the STEP/SURMOUNT dose-finding data shows:

Semaglutide: ED50 ≈ 0.6mg, Emax ≈ -18%, Hill coefficient ≈ 1.3
Tirzepatide: ED50 ≈ 6mg, Emax ≈ -25%, Hill coefficient ≈ 1.5

Clinical implication: most patients achieve >80% of maximal response by the mid-range dose (1.7mg sema, 10mg tirz). Going to the maximum dose provides diminishing returns — possibly not worth the additional side effect burden for some patients. Individualize dosing based on response vs tolerability.

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