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Has anyone dealt with i missed my shot day by 2 days am i going to be okay?

JakeSmashed95 Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:49 PM 25 replies 1,966 viewsPage 1 of 5
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Apr 15, 2025 at 11:49 PM#1

This gets cited here weekly, usually second-hand, so it is worth setting out what it does and does not establish.

Holding longer is the underrated move. A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component tachyphylaxes while the appetite effect persists. Escalating at week two throws that adaptation away.

Where I think it is weakest: the follow-up is short relative to how long people actually take these drugs, so durability is an assumption here rather than a finding.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: what the trials actually did with participants who could not tolerate a step, because that is the situation I am in and the protocol summaries skip it. I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Apr 15, 2025 at 11:54 PM#2
JakeSmashed95 said:
A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component…

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The trials generally allowed a step to be held or reduced and then retried, and people who did that mostly arrived at the same place a few weeks later. The end point of the ladder is set by tolerability, not by a schedule, and there is no evidence that reaching the top faster produces a better outcome.

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Apr 15, 2025 at 11:59 PM#3
JakeSmashed95 said:
A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component…

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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Apr 16, 2025 at 12:04 AM#4

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution. With a one-week half-life you need four to five half-lives to reach steady state, so at two weeks you are dosing on top of a concentration that has not finished rising. Escalating then stacks exposure and you get the side-effect burden of the higher dose before you have seen the benefit of the current one.

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Apr 16, 2025 at 12:29 AM#5
Dr.RaviCardio said:
The trials generally allowed a step to be held or reduced and then retried, and people who did that mostly arrived at the same place a few weeks…

Same pattern here, and in the same order. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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