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ForumsProgress & Lab Results[PREMIUM] 18-month transformation — 12 month update Page 5

[PREMIUM] 18-month transformation — 12 month update

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Dr.SportsMedIN
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Jun 5, 2024 at 2:12 AM#21

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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Jun 6, 2024 at 8:09 PM#22
SurmountFan_IN said:
Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent…

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Jun 8, 2024 at 2:05 PM#23
SurmountFan_IN said:
Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent…

Agreed, and the size of the effect matters as much as its existence. Something real and small gets treated here as though it were real and decisive.

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Jun 10, 2024 at 8:00 AM#24
SurmountFan_IN said:
Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent…

Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them. Adding it to my notes with a link back to this thread.

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Jun 12, 2024 at 1:54 AM#25

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.

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