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Blood pressure normalized — anyone have experience?

Dr.KarenChen Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 1:03 PM 45 replies 2,471 viewsPage 5 of 9
hyun_seoul
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Nov 9, 2024 at 5:56 PM#21

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 12 months of treatment.

The 5 criteria (and my journey):

  1. Waist circumference: 51" → 37" ✅ Resolved
  2. Triglycerides: 235 → 105 ✅ Resolved
  3. HDL: 35 → 57 ✅ Resolved
  4. Blood pressure: 145/93 → 118/72 ✅ Resolved
  5. Fasting glucose: 115 → 87 ✅ Resolved

Metabolic syndrome reversal is, in my view, the most medically significant outcome of GLP-1 therapy.

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robert_kc
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Nov 12, 2024 at 10:28 PM#22
hyun_seoul said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 12 months of treatment.

Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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ingrid_STO
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Nov 16, 2024 at 3:02 AM#23
hyun_seoul said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 12 months of treatment.
hyun_seoul said:
...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.

However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.

Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.

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Nov 19, 2024 at 7:38 AM#24
hyun_seoul said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 12 months of treatment.
hyun_seoul said:
...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?

Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.

If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.

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Nov 22, 2024 at 12:16 PM#25

One thing that is still open after hyun_seoul’s answer:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

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