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My trainer has no idea what GLP-1 is and it shows — need advice

mia_MS2 Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:51 PM 12 replies 2,278 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Jan 23, 2024 at 11:51 PM#1

Two DEXA scans eleven months apart: down 24kg total, of which the scan says 6kg was lean. I want to know whether that ratio is bad, normal, or simply what happens.

What I am after is what fraction of loss being lean mass is actually normal, because the numbers quoted here range from 10% to 40% and cannot all be right.

Tell me what I have not thought of.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 12:42 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, and not making the deficit larger than the training can support. Cardio does not protect lean mass and in a deep deficit competes with recovery.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 1:33 AM#3
LibrarianMeg said:
The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…

Agreed on the ranges, with the condition that a single DEXA is not a measurement, it is one draw from a distribution. Hydration status moves the lean compartment by a kilogram or more between scans, so any comparison of scans done at different times of day or different hydration states is noise.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 2:24 AM#4
mia_MS2 said:
Two DEXA scans eleven months apart: down 24kg total, of which the scan says 6kg was lean.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The honest range is roughly 20 to 40% of total loss as lean mass without deliberate resistance training, and roughly 10 to 20% with it plus adequate protein. Both numbers need a caveat that matters: "lean mass" on a DEXA is not muscle. It includes water, glycogen and the lean fraction of organs, and glycogen alone carries about three grams of water per gram. A large early lean drop is mostly the glycogen and water going, which is why the first scan flatters and the second is the honest one.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Back pain as a lean mass side effect: not from the medication itself, but from rapid body composition changes. Losing 43 lbs shifts your center of gravity and your core muscles need time to adjust.

Physical therapy has been essential. Core strengthening exercises (planks, dead bugs, bird dogs) daily for 10 minutes have eliminated my lower back pain. Your body is literally relearning how to carry itself.

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