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Muscle protein synthesis window — September 2026

VanRx_Mike Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:18 AM 11 replies 1,821 viewsPage 1 of 3
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VanRx_Mike
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Aug 4, 2024 at 11:18 AM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

The arithmetic that makes it tractable: reference weight in kg times 1.6 gives the target; divide by four for a per-sitting figure; then find four foods that hit that figure in a volume you can actually finish. Most people need two of the four to be liquid or semi-liquid early on.

What I am after is how people are hitting a protein target on a genuinely suppressed appetite, because volume is the binding constraint rather than willingness.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Aug 4, 2024 at 11:25 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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Aug 4, 2024 at 11:32 AM#3
Dr.KarenChen said:
The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Aug 4, 2024 at 11:39 AM#4
VanRx_Mike said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing. Roughly 25 to 40g per sitting with enough leucine to trigger synthesis, three or four times a day, is more effective than the same total in one enormous evening meal — and on a suppressed appetite the enormous evening meal is the one you will not finish anyway.

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Aug 4, 2024 at 12:13 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass280 lbs230 lbs207 lbs
Fat mass110 lbs80 lbs42 lbs
Lean mass148 lbs147 lbs154 lbs
Body fat %41%33%21%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.4g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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