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Compounded sema batch testing results — looking for input

PurityPaulOR Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 10:47 AM 32 replies 1,688 viewsPage 1 of 7
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Oct 20, 2025 at 10:47 AM#1

My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Two things anyone can check: a state licence number for a 503A, and an FDA outsourcing-facility registration for a 503B. Both are publicly searchable, and a pharmacy unwilling to give you either has answered the question.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 10:54 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM#3
BethLabQueen said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:08 AM#4
PurityPaulOR said:
My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Can confirm the pattern PurityPaulOR describes. They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things. A 503A pharmacy is regulated primarily by the state board, needs a patient-specific prescription, is exempt from CGMP, and may use a bulk substance that has a USP monograph, is a component of an approved drug, or appears on the 503A bulks list — three independent doorways. A 503B outsourcing facility registers with the FDA, is inspected on a risk basis, must comply with CGMP, may compound for office stock without a patient-specific prescription, and has one doorway to a permitted bulk substance: the 503B bulks list, or the drug shortage list.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:43 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Compounding pharmacy licensing verification for compounded supply: before ordering, verify your pharmacy's credentials:

  1. State Board of Pharmacy license — check on your state BOP website
  2. FDA registration (for 503B) — check on fda.gov
  3. DEA registration if handling controlled substances
  4. PCAB accreditation — voluntary but demonstrates commitment to quality
  5. USP <797>/<800> compliance for sterile compounding

This takes 10 minutes of research and could save you from receiving substandard or unsafe medication.

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