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Gallbladder disease risk — cholelithiasis data from clinical trials

PharmacoVig_BOS Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 12:51 PM 12 replies 266 viewsPage 2 of 3
HPLC_Greg
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Jun 7, 2026 at 4:42 PM#6

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

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Jun 7, 2026 at 6:13 PM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

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Jun 7, 2026 at 7:44 PM#8
HPLC_Greg said:
A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud. Trial participants get titration by protocol, scheduled contact, free drug and dietetic support; removing that infrastructure costs a few percentage points every time it has been measured. When your own curve sits below the published mean, that is the likeliest explanation before anything about you or your material.

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Jun 7, 2026 at 9:15 PM#9

Closing the loop on my own question.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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Jun 8, 2026 at 4:32 AM#10
Dr.PainCLE said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

Gallbladder warning for gallbladder risk: rapid weight loss increases gallstone risk regardless of method. GLP-1 patients have a ~2-3% incidence of gallbladder events in clinical trials.

Symptoms to watch for: pain in upper right abdomen after fatty meals, nausea after eating, pain radiating to right shoulder. I had my gallbladder out at month 6 — it was full of stones. My surgeon said it's very common in significant weight loss patients.

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