TrialTracker_MD said:FLOW is the relevant trial and it reported a meaningful reduction in kidney-disease progression and related death in people with type 2 diabetes and…
Agreed, though "tolerable" needs defining. A dose you tolerate by eating almost nothing is not tolerated, it is being paid for somewhere else — usually in lean mass, sometimes in adherence three months later.
FDA_TrackerJim said:Steady state is the thing most people miss.
That reframing is the part I needed.
TrialTracker_MD said:FLOW is the relevant trial and it reported a meaningful reduction in kidney-disease progression and related death in people with type 2 diabetes and…
I will push back on the "any working dose is fine" framing. The maintenance evidence sits overwhelmingly at the top studied dose, and the extension data shows regain tracking dose reduction rather than tracking stopping. Holding low is reasonable; pretending it is evidentially equivalent is not.
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View ResultsThe figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Worth knowing that eGFR estimates depend on creatinine, and creatinine depends on muscle mass. Losing muscle raises eGFR artificially, which flatters the number while the kidney is unchanged.
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