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Retatrutide and blood pressure — need advice

Dr.RenalNash Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 8:12 PM 43 replies 2,143 viewsPage 1 of 9
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Dr.RenalNash
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Jun 4, 2025 at 8:12 PM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

What would genuinely help is knowing how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 8:21 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not. Glucagon receptor agonism raises energy expenditure and drives hepatic fatty-acid oxidation, and its hyperglycaemic tendency is offset by the GLP-1 arm's insulin secretagogue effect. Net result: intake down from GLP-1/GIP, expenditure up from glucagon, glycaemia neutral or improved. It is a balancing act, and it is why the liver-fat results are the most interesting part of the dataset.

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Dr.PainCLE
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Jun 4, 2025 at 8:30 PM#3
NeuroNate said:
The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not.

Fair, but phase 2 tolerability figures rarely survive contact with phase 3 scale. Triple agonism means three receptor systems generating adverse events, and the dropout column is the one I would read first when the larger trials report.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 8:39 PM#4
Dr.RenalNash said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 9:28 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Dr.RenalNash said:
...we're creating a generation dependent on cardiovascular risk...

I understand the concern, but consider this analogy: are we "creating a generation dependent on" blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication? Thyroid medication?

Obesity is a chronic disease with biological drivers. Treating it with medication is no different from treating any other chronic condition. The "dependency" framing implies weakness or moral failure — neither of which is accurate.

If ongoing medication is what keeps someone healthy, that's successful treatment, not dependency.

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