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TRIUMPH program trial design overview — all Phase 3 arms

TrialTracker_MD Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM 324 replies 45,778 viewsPage 12 of 20
stefan_berlin
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Jul 13, 2024 at 6:52 AM#56

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.

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Jul 16, 2024 at 7:26 PM#57

Following on from hans_munich — and this may be the naive question:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Jul 20, 2024 at 7:58 AM#58
stefan_berlin said:
The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the…

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.

Worth separating that from the trial evidence, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 8:28 PM#59
stefan_berlin said:
The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the…

Right, and the exception is worth naming rather than left implied, because the exception is where people get into trouble.

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Jul 27, 2024 at 8:56 AM#60
stefan_berlin said:
The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the…

This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else.

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