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Endotoxin testing in compounded injectables — anyone have experience?

lucas_SP_BR Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 2:58 AM 8 replies 1,672 viewsPage 2 of 2
julia.endo
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Nov 12, 2024 at 5:03 AM#6
MikeFit_NJ said:
They are two different exemptions from the same federal requirements and they buy different things.

I read this differently from MikeFit_NJ, on substance rather than tone. A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to. It is a different legal universe with no pharmacy oversight, no patient relationship and no content guarantee, and conflating the two in these threads helps nobody.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 5:52 AM#7
lucas_SP_BR said:
My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Beyond-use dating (BUD) for compounded supply compounded products:

Lyophilized (unreconstituted): typically 6 months from compounding date
Reconstituted with BAC water: typically 28-30 days refrigerated
Reconstituted with sterile water: typically 24 hours (no preservative!)

Always use BAC water for multi-dose vials. Sterile water has no preservative and supports bacterial growth after first puncture. This is a common and potentially dangerous mistake.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 6:41 AM#8
julia.endo said:
A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to.

Compounding pharmacy red flag checklist for compounded supply — if ANY of these apply, find a different source:

  1. No verifiable physical address
  2. No pharmacist available for consultation
  3. COA not available or clearly template/fake
  4. Prices dramatically below market ($30-40/month = suspicious)
  5. No prescription required
  6. Ships without cold pack or temperature control
  7. No batch/lot numbers on product labeling
  8. Pushes "research use only" products for human injection

Your health depends on product quality. Don't cut corners on source verification.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 7:30 AM#9

Following on from emma_london — and this may be the naive question:

Why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission?

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Nov 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM#10

Reporting back.

The bulks-list asymmetry was the piece I had missed entirely. It explains why one of my two pharmacies is still arguing it can supply and the other simply stopped.

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