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SELECT trial 4-year follow-up data released — anyone have experience?

NurseKim_ATL Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 7:58 AM 10 replies 1,790 viewsPage 1 of 2
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NurseKim_ATL
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Aug 30, 2024 at 7:58 AM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Relative versus absolute is the distinction that gets lost: a 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit, and the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one.

What I am trying to establish is how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 8:19 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Relative and absolute effects need reading together. A 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit; the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one, and press summaries almost always quote the relative number because it is bigger.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 8:40 AM#3
PharmD_Rodriguez said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Agreed, and subgroup analyses deserve particular suspicion. With enough subgroups something is significant by chance, and pre-registered subgroups are a different animal from ones found afterwards.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 9:01 AM#4
NurseKim_ATL said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Mine went the same way, slower. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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Aug 30, 2024 at 10:54 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Lp(a) and cardiovascular risk: a nuance that matters. Unlike most lipid markers, Lp(a) is 90%+ genetically determined and doesn't really change with weight loss or GLP-1 therapy.

My Lp(a) has remained at 53 nmol/L across all time points. If yours is elevated (>50 nmol/L), you need additional risk mitigation strategies regardless of your GLP-1 response. Don't assume your medication is covering all cardiovascular risk factors.

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