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Calgary compounding pharmacies — 12 month update

NeuroNate Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:45 PM 50 replies 2,566 viewsPage 1 of 10
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May 29, 2024 at 11:45 PM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

What I am trying to establish is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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May 30, 2024 at 12:23 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists. For 503B the shortage clause was the only route to these molecules, so that route shut completely. A 503A pharmacy can still argue a doorway via "component of an approved drug" — but only for the substance in the form present in the approved product, which is exactly where the base-versus-salt argument lives, and it does nothing about the copy restriction, which came back into force on resolution.

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May 30, 2024 at 1:01 AM#3
Dr.ObesityMed said:
Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

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NeuroNate said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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May 30, 2024 at 5:12 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

503A vs 503B compounding pharmacies for compounded supply — this distinction matters enormously:

Feature503A503B
RegulationState Board of PharmacyFDA-registered
PrescriptionRequired (patient-specific)Can compound without patient Rx
TestingVaries by statecGMP required
ScaleSmall batchesLarger production
Quality consistencyVariableGenerally higher

I strongly recommend 503B facilities. The FDA oversight and cGMP requirements mean more consistent product quality.

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