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Body dysmorphia after significant weight loss — need advice

Dr.RheumBOS Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 2:19 PM 54 replies 1,998 viewsPage 1 of 11
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Dr.RheumBOS
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Apr 26, 2025 at 2:19 PM#1

I keep finding that the number in the press summary and the number in the paper are not the same number, and the difference is always in the same direction.

A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: how to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Apr 26, 2025 at 3:33 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud. Trial participants get titration by protocol, scheduled contact, free drug and dietetic support; removing that infrastructure costs a few percentage points every time it has been measured. When your own curve sits below the published mean, that is the likeliest explanation before anything about you or your material.

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Apr 26, 2025 at 4:47 PM#3
Dr.NateNeph said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

Propensity score matching studies and the trial evidence: when RCTs aren't available for a specific question, propensity score-matched observational studies can provide useful evidence.

A recent PSM study of 25,000 GLP-1 users vs matched controls showed reduced all-cause mortality (HR 0.81) over 5 years of follow-up[1].

These results complement the RCT data and suggest the benefits translate to real-world populations.

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[1] Registry-based cohort study, pre-print 2024.
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Apr 26, 2025 at 6:01 PM#4
Dr.RheumBOS said:
I keep finding that the number in the press summary and the number in the paper are not the same number, and the difference is always in the same…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Read four things before the headline number. The population, because trial populations are selected and supported in ways that real cohorts are not. The comparator, because "better than placebo" and "better than the current standard" are different claims and get reported identically. The primary endpoint as pre-registered, because a secondary endpoint promoted after the fact is a hypothesis rather than a finding. And the completion rate, because a large effect in the half of participants who finished is a different result from a large effect in everybody enrolled.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 1:07 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Forest plot interpretation for the the trial evidence meta-analysis: when reading the pooled estimate, pay attention to:

  1. Point estimate (HR/RR/OR) — center of the diamond
  2. Confidence interval width — precision of the estimate
  3. I² statistic — heterogeneity across studies
  4. Individual study weights — are results driven by one large trial?
  5. Prediction interval — range of plausible true effects in future settings

The the trial evidence meta-analysis shows a pooled RR of 0.75 (95% CI 0.68-0.85), I²=33%. This is a robust and consistent effect.

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