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Started this morning and already overthinking everything

hannah_MT Sat, Jan 3, 2026 at 12:20 PM 13 replies 1,158 viewsPage 2 of 3
NurseKim_ATL
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Jan 3, 2026 at 6:48 PM#6
PharmacoVig_BOS said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Jan 3, 2026 at 9:20 PM#7
hannah_MT said:
My own curve sits about four points below the published mean and I spent two months assuming that meant something was wrong with me or with my…
hannah_MT said:
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 18 RCTs (n=15,600) found that the trial evidence was associated with a robust effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 15, which is comparable to antihypertensives for stroke reduction. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Jan 3, 2026 at 11:52 PM#8
NurseKim_ATL said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

Propensity score matching studies and the trial evidence: when RCTs aren't available for a specific question, propensity score-matched observational studies can provide useful evidence.

A recent PSM study of 18,000 GLP-1 users vs matched controls showed reduced MI incidence (HR 0.78) over 4 years of follow-up[1].

These results complement the RCT data and suggest the benefits translate to real-world populations.

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[1] Registry-based cohort study, pre-print 2024.
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Jan 4, 2026 at 2:24 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Did your prescriber agree with that reading, and if not what was their objection?

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Jan 4, 2026 at 2:34 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Follow-up: I read the paper rather than the summary and the qualifier I was missing was in the second paragraph of the results.

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