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Cost projections for oral non-peptide GLP-1 agonists — what worked for you?

LeilaHI Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 1:21 AM 18 replies 1,817 viewsPage 1 of 4
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LeilaHI
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Nov 24, 2024 at 1:21 AM#1

Reading the phase 2 write-up next to the injectable trials, and the comparison people keep making does not survive putting the two protocols side by side.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: whether a non-peptide oral agonist can match injectable exposure in practice, or whether the convenience is bought with a lower ceiling.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 3:18 AM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that. Get the denial reason in writing, because it names the criterion you failed. Then supply the documentation that criterion asks for — usually documented BMI with a comorbidity, or a failed prior therapy. Then appeal, and ask for a peer-to-peer review, because a prescriber talking to a reviewing clinician resolves a large fraction of denials that written appeals do not. Manufacturer copay assistance is separate and applies mainly to commercial insurance, and patient assistance programmes are means-tested rather than a discount.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 5:15 AM#3
DataDave said:
Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.

No disagreement with DataDave. One condition attached. The manufacturing argument is the underrated one. Peptide synthesis capacity has been the binding constraint on this entire class, and a small molecule is made in ordinary chemical plants. If it holds up in phase 3, the supply and price picture changes more than the efficacy picture does.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 7:12 AM#4
LeilaHI said:
Reading the phase 2 write-up next to the injectable trials, and the comparison people keep making does not survive putting the two protocols side by…

Agreed, and coverage criteria are plan-specific rather than insurer-specific. Two people with the same insurer and different employers have different rules, which is why "my insurer covers it" is not transferable information.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 6:43 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any. If nothing would, the discussion is not about evidence, and it is better to say so early than to spend nine posts discovering it.

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