High protein fast food options - yes they exist — looking for input

anders_CPH said:

It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.

Reporting back.

Update: two thirds of the target before midday. Same total, same appetite, and I am hitting it most days now.

One thing that is still open after anders_CPH’s answer:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

Dr.PainCLE said:

Update: two thirds of the target before midday.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. I think the framing smuggles in the conclusion. Ask it the other way round and the obvious answer reverses, which usually means the question is doing the work.

Dr.PainCLE said:

Update: two thirds of the target before midday.

No disagreement, though the timescale matters more than the mechanism here. Most of what looks like a difference in kind turns out to be a difference in how long somebody waited.