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Gratitude thread — need advice

TrialNerd_Beth Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 12:15 AM 12 replies 1,878 viewsPage 1 of 3
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TrialNerd_Beth
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Dec 6, 2024 at 12:15 AM#1

The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

The narrow version of the question is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Dec 6, 2024 at 1:50 AM#2
TrialNerd_Beth said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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Dec 6, 2024 at 3:25 AM#3
kate.chem said:
Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80%…

The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related hospitalizations in GLP-1 agonist users[1].

The mechanism is plausible: GLP-1R is expressed in the mesolimbic reward pathway (VTA, nucleus accumbens). Agonism at these receptors may reduce the reinforcing properties of alcohol, similar to the reduction in "food noise."

RCTs for GLP-1 agonists in AUD are now underway. If positive, this would be a paradigm-shifting repurposing of existing medications.

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[1] Wang W, et al. Nat Med. 2024;30:574-584.
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Dec 6, 2024 at 5:00 AM#4
TrialNerd_Beth said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use.

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Dec 6, 2024 at 2:18 PM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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