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Has anyone dealt with got off metformin for the first time in 8 years - crying happy tears?

AmyNC_wife Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:18 AM 10 replies 2,066 viewsPage 1 of 2
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AmyNC_wife
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Apr 19, 2024 at 2:18 AM#1

Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Because it is glucose-dependent, this class carries a low intrinsic hypoglycaemia risk on its own — the risk arrives when it is combined with insulin or a sulfonylurea, which usually need reducing.

What I am trying to establish is why A1C lags the way it does, and what to look at in the meantime if you want to know sooner.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 3:20 AM#2
AmyNC_wife said:
Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 41% to 18%. Target is <36%, with <30% being ideal.

Why this matters more than average glucose: large glucose swings cause oxidative stress, endothelial damage, and promote advanced glycation end-products (AGEs). A flat glucose line at 95 mg/dL is metabolically healthier than oscillating between 60 and 160, even if the average is the same.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 4:22 AM#3
LabKate said:
Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 41% to 18%.

Complete metabolic panel trending on glycaemic control — sharing because comprehensive data helps everyone:

TestBaselineMonth 3Month 6Month 12
Glucose (fasting)113999383
Insulin (fasting)191396
HOMA-IR5.52.92.11.2
Uric Acid7.66.36.04.9

The insulin resistance improvement (HOMA-IR) is what my endo focuses on most. Going from 5.5 to near 1.0 is a metabolic transformation.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 5:24 AM#4
AmyNC_wife said:
Fasting glucose improved within weeks and my HbA1c barely moved for three months, which I now understand and did not at the time.

Second this.

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Apr 19, 2024 at 11:21 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Patient selection optimization for glycaemic control: emerging predictive biomarkers for GLP-1 agonist response include:

BiomarkerAssociationEvidence Level
Baseline BMIHigher BMI → greater absolute weight lossStrong
Fasting insulinHigher insulin → better responseModerate
GLP1R gene variantsrs6923761 → variable responsePreliminary
Baseline hsCRPHigher CRP → greater CV benefitModerate
Early weight loss (4 wk)≥3% at 4 wks → strong predictor of ≥10% at 68 wksStrong

The 4-week early responder criterion is the most clinically actionable: if you haven't lost ≥3% by week 4 at a therapeutic dose, discuss optimization strategies with your provider.

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