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Dr.RheumBOS Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:34 PM 11 replies 1,503 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Jun 23, 2025 at 10:34 PM#1

Collecting this in one place because it comes up every few weeks and the answer is always assembled from scratch. It is about food noise, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background computation about food that most people with obesity live with and most people without it do not believe exists. GLP-1 agonism reduces the salience of food cues in the reward pathway rather than simply reducing hunger, which is why the reported experience is silence rather than willpower. It is also why its return on dose reduction is the first thing people notice, well before the weight moves.

The condition it depends on

It is worth naming the loss side of it. Food was a source of pleasure and structure, and its removal can leave a gap that people are not prepared for.

What I am not sure about

What I actually want to know is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules. Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Jun 24, 2025 at 12:08 AM#2
Dr.RheumBOS said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Jun 24, 2025 at 1:42 AM#3
Dr.RheumBOS said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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Jun 24, 2025 at 3:16 AM#4
julia.endo said:
Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back.

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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Jun 24, 2025 at 12:25 PM#5
Dr.RaviCardio said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. Posting only so the count is not one.

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