🍪 The GLP Lounge uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsPharmacology & MechanismsWhy does it stop working after a while for some people — what worked for you? Page 2

Why does it stop working after a while for some people — what worked for you?

Dr.ObesityLA Thu, May 2, 2024 at 3:42 PM 19 replies 2,021 viewsPage 2 of 4
Dr.PainCLE
Senior Member
1,234
6,234
Mar 2024
Cleveland, OH
May 2, 2024 at 5:32 PM#6
HPLC_Greg said:
Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36).

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

33 3Dr.PathRoch, mona_PHX, andrew_nyc and 30 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
lucas_SP_BR
Member
456
1,890
Jun 2024
São Paulo, BR
May 2, 2024 at 6:15 PM#7
Dr.ObesityLA said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

32 2Dr.ObesityLA, NurseKim_ATL, paul_denver and 29 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
TrialNerd_Beth
Senior Member
2,345
11,234
Jan 2024
Bethesda, MD
May 2, 2024 at 6:58 PM#8
Dr.PainCLE said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

References:
[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
31 1TomTeleRx, DoseLogDan, SleepFixSam and 28 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

PeptideMeter — Independent Peptide Analytics

Community-driven peptide testing and vendor rating platform. Transparent results. Unbiased analysis. Trusted by thousands.

View Results
Dr.LeslieOBGYN
Member
567
2,567
May 2024
Dallas, TX
May 2, 2024 at 7:41 PM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?

30 0NicoleRaleigh, james_edin, FranDenver and 27 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
Dr.ObesityLA
VIP Member
3,567
19,876
Dec 2023
Los Angeles, CA
May 2, 2024 at 11:10 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.

44 17jason_sac26, chris_chi24, tampaLisa73 and 41 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

GLP-1R desensitization — β-arrestin-mediated internalization18 replies
Biased agonism at GLP-1R — Gs vs β-arrestin signaling balance13 replies
Semaglutide albumin binding and the C-18 fatty acid linker17 replies
GIP receptor pharmacology — why GIP agonism enhances GLP-113 replies
Glucagon receptor signaling — hepatic glycogenolysis and lipolysis16 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register