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SleepFixSam Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 9:58 PM 36 replies 1,562 viewsPage 1 of 8
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Nov 17, 2025 at 9:58 PM#1

The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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Nov 17, 2025 at 10:33 PM#2
SleepFixSam said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

"Food aversion" side effect of food noise that I wasn't prepared for: I used to LOVE cooking and trying new restaurants. Now certain foods — especially red meat — literally repulse me.

It's not just reduced appetite; it's an active disgust response. My therapist says this is common and likely related to the reward pathway modulation. It's mostly a positive change, but I do miss enjoying food the way I used to.

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Nov 17, 2025 at 11:08 PM#3
Dr.ObesityMed said:
"Food aversion" side effect of food noise that I wasn't prepared for: I used to LOVE cooking and trying new restaurants.

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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Nov 17, 2025 at 11:43 PM#4
SleepFixSam said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. Posting only so the count is not one.

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Nov 18, 2025 at 2:59 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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