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Is there a way to verify if a vendor has been FDA warning-lettered? — my results so far

DerekSJ_a1c Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:56 AM 10 replies 1,943 viewsPage 1 of 2
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DerekSJ_a1c
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Jun 26, 2024 at 8:56 AM#1

This is the version of the explanation I wish somebody had given me, written down before I forget what confused me. It is about vendor vetting, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

The condition it depends on

One flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.

The practical version

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am not sure about

The narrow version of the question is what a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake. If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 9:08 AM#2
DerekSJ_a1c said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 9:20 AM#3
DerekSJ_a1c said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 9:32 AM#4

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 10:33 AM#5
LipidDoc_ATL said:
Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale. Posting only so the count is not one.

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