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Do you inject morning or night? Does it matter? — 12 month update

mike_mod Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:17 PM 30 replies 2,506 viewsPage 1 of 6
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May 29, 2024 at 10:17 PM#1

I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable outcome rather than bad luck.

The question I want answered is why the interval is four weeks rather than two, and whether a slower ladder gets to the same place.

Tell me what I have not thought of.

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May 29, 2024 at 10:26 PM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution. With a one-week half-life you need four to five half-lives to reach steady state, so at two weeks you are dosing on top of a concentration that has not finished rising. Escalating then stacks exposure and you get the side-effect burden of the higher dose before you have seen the benefit of the current one.

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May 29, 2024 at 10:35 PM#3
amsterdam_pete said:
Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution.

Agreed on the arithmetic, with one condition: holding indefinitely at a dose that is not doing anything is not patience, it is a stall with a nice name. The distinction is whether appetite has changed at all at the current step.

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May 29, 2024 at 10:44 PM#4
mike_mod said:
I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. Holding longer is the underrated move. A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component tachyphylaxes while the appetite effect persists. Escalating at week two throws that adaptation away.

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May 29, 2024 at 11:33 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

PSA for titration users considering the 0.25mg starting dose: this dose is NOT intended for weight loss. It's a titration dose to let your body adjust. Don't be discouraged if you don't lose much in the first month.

The therapeutic dose for weight management starts at 1.7mg (semaglutide) or 5mg (tirzepatide). Be patient with the ramp-up.

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