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Due diligence checklist before ordering from ANY vendor — need advice

SteveThurs Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 6:42 AM 16 replies 1,775 viewsPage 1 of 4
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Nov 24, 2024 at 6:42 AM#1

Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am trying to establish is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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mike.trainer_LA
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Nov 24, 2024 at 6:59 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 7:16 AM#3
mike.trainer_LA said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency. Consistency means separate batches, separately commissioned, over months.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 7:33 AM#4
SteveThurs said:
Eight months with one supplier, then a change in how they communicate that I noticed before I noticed anything about the product.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 9:03 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 14 orders across 5 vendors: average purity 97.6%, zero sterility concerns, 0 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

I encourage everyone to track their orders systematically. Community data aggregation makes us all safer.

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