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ForumsDosing & ProtocolsDrawing from a multi-dose vial — anyone have experience? Page 2

Drawing from a multi-dose vial — anyone have experience?

raj_cambridge Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:12 AM 59 replies 2,635 viewsPage 2 of 12
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Jul 22, 2024 at 8:11 AM#6
KevinCompounds said:
Four weeks is the pharmacokinetics, not caution.

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 9:21 AM#7
raj_cambridge said:
I titrated faster than the label because I felt fine, hit a wall at the third step, and had to come back down — which I now think was the predictable…

Dose escalation anxiety for titration: I was terrified to move from 0.5mg to 1.0mg based on horror stories in this forum. But my actual experience? Slightly more appetite suppression, zero additional side effects.

Remember that the people posting about terrible side effects are a biased sample. Most people titrate up without drama — they just don't post about it because it's uneventful.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 10:31 AM#8
DataDave said:
I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. Take it one variable at a time. Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent argument can untangle them after the fact.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 11:41 AM#9

One thing that is still open after PharmD_Rodriguez’s answer:

What the trials actually did with participants who could not tolerate a step, because that is the situation I am in and the protocol summaries skip it?

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Jul 22, 2024 at 5:19 PM#10

Reporting back.

Closing this out: I held the step for six weeks rather than four and it settled without a dose change. The interval was the answer, not the dose.

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