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De-escalation protocols — my results so far

pam_columbus Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 5:28 AM 14 replies 1,985 viewsPage 2 of 3
Dr.GastroMayo
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Aug 4, 2024 at 4:22 PM#6
Dr.NateNeph said:
A step that is uncomfortable at week two is frequently comfortable at week six with no change in dose, because the gastric-emptying component…

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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Aug 4, 2024 at 8:40 PM#7
pam_columbus said:
Four dose steps in, holding each one the full four weeks, and I am trying to work out whether the interval is a pharmacological requirement or a…

Dose escalation anxiety for titration: I was terrified to move from 0.5mg to 1.0mg based on horror stories in this forum. But my actual experience? Slightly more appetite suppression, zero additional side effects.

Remember that the people posting about terrible side effects are a biased sample. Most people titrate up without drama — they just don't post about it because it's uneventful.

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Aug 5, 2024 at 12:58 AM#8
Dr.GastroMayo said:
I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Most of what circulates confidently in this community traces back to one summary of one study, and the qualifier was dropped somewhere in the third retelling.

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Aug 5, 2024 at 5:16 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Why the interval is four weeks rather than two, and whether a slower ladder gets to the same place?

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Aug 6, 2024 at 1:56 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

I held the step an extra three weeks instead of stepping back down, and it settled. Same dose, same everything, just more time — which is exactly what was suggested upthread.

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