andrew_nyc said:The manufacturing argument is the underrated one.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them. Taking it to my next appointment.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated. Those two sets overlap less than the confident tone of most write-ups suggests, and the second set is where nearly all the disagreement on this board comes from.
Dr.BariatricHTX said:The mechanism and the magnitude are separate questions.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.
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