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Has anyone dealt with this vendor ghosted me after i paid, anyone else???

kevin_tulsa Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 12:03 AM 8 replies 1,730 viewsPage 1 of 2
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kevin_tulsa
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:03 AM#1

Writing this once so I can stop repeating it across threads. It is about vendor vetting, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product. A bad batch comes with communication, a reshipment offer and a batch number. An exit comes with slower replies, pressure toward less reversible payment methods, sudden discounting, and the same reassurance repeated without any new information. The product tells you less than the correspondence does.

The condition it depends on

A caveat about community reputation: it is a lagging indicator. Reports arrive weeks after orders, so a supplier can look excellent for a month after quality has already changed.

The practical version

Red flags, in rough order of how much they should worry you: no verifiable address, no batch numbers, prices far under market, vendor-commissioned tests only, pressure toward irreversible payment, and shipping with no temperature control.

What I am not sure about

What I actually want to know is how people are distinguishing a supplier having a bad batch from a supplier on the way out. Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

— kevin_tulsa · corrections welcome and will be edited into this post with credit
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LarryQC_SD
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:25 AM#2
kevin_tulsa said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

kevin_tulsa has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation. Independent test results commissioned by buyers rather than by the seller, consistency across multiple batches over time rather than one flattering report, a physical address and a company registration that resolve, batch and lot numbers on the actual labelling, and a shipping practice that matches what the material needs. Everything a good-looking website provides is cheap to fake; none of the items above are.

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Dr.GastroMayo
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:47 AM#3
kevin_tulsa said:
The pattern that distinguishes a bad batch from an exit is behaviour rather than product.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Oct 7, 2024 at 1:09 AM#4

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion. Synthesis, testing, and cold-chain shipping have floors. A price well under the floor means something was skipped, and the two things that get skipped are testing and content.

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Oct 7, 2024 at 3:08 AM#5
LarryQC_SD said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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